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Michael de la Force

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Mr. Flemming (Centennial) - 2007/11/17 05:05 During the 75th birthday of OK, many of us who had
Mr. Flemming for Science, and, if memory is correct, the whole
of the Chouteau-Mazie Schools took part in the festivities.
There was a time capsule to be opened today. Was it opened?
Would probably be interesting as there were a lot of great personalities around there at the time as I trust there still are. Happy Birthday, Oklahoma!

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Re:Mr. Flemming (Centennial) - 2007/11/17 05:55 I remember the time capsule, because it was the first time I'd ever heard the term and we learned about what it was. I'm curious about this as well...did anyone even remember it? My kids didn't say anything about it today. But then, they were busy with plays, pretend rodeos, and parties. lol

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Re:Mr. Flemming (Centennial) - 2007/11/19 01:16 glad you all got to celebrate. my daughter who is in 3rd grade came home and asked me if i knew what a "sooner" was. i had to be honest and say no. she told me we were the cheaters who staked our land before the run even began. i laughed and said your probably right. then she asked why did we kick the indians off their land. i said 1st I had nothing to do with it i wasn't around but the people back then kicked them off because they wanted to land. bher reply "but if they were here first...?" i stopped her and said sometimes people just do what they want. they don't care for others they just are gonna do what they wanna do.
fantastic that others celebrated and great that oklahoma is 100 but all the excitement left me when i had the discussion with my 9 year old. It was 100 yrs. ago they we claimed this land for our own after we pushed the indians out of the way. How depressing.

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Re:Mr. Flemming (Centennial) - 2007/11/19 19:52 Manifest Destiny, that's the term.

I've had some nice arguments on football message boards with Texas fans who call us 'Land Thieves', 'Squaters', etc. I ask them exactly how they got their land? Yeah, by forcefully taking it from Mexico. And extinquishing a few Indian tribes in the meantime.

So we're not that bad, compared to Texas and pretty much all the other states. Some of us just cheated a little. Go rent 'Oklahoma Passage' and show it to your kids, it will make you feel better.

Also, historically speaking, it's arguable that the Vikings claimed this land anyway before any tribes settled here. I've been to the Heavener Rune Stone. It's supposed to have been carved between 600-900 AD. So I guess Oklahoma first belonged to Sweden or Norway. Though what humans explored the area first is certainly debatable.

Anyway, to the victor go the spoils. We all busted England's chops to get where we are, too.

I'm proud to live in the Sooner State. We've produced more astronauts than anyone else, OU has won 7 football national championships (second only to Notre Dame), and, hey, don't forget that OSU invented sliced peanut butter!

Our roads suck, our schools are underfunded, but it's an affordable place to live and we have a lot of lakes and camping places, we're not totally paved over yet, and also we aren't Arkansas, so I'll stay.

"The seas be ours, and by the powers - where we will, we'll roam."

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Re:Mr. Flemming (Centennial) - 2007/11/20 00:01 OK YOU'RE RIGHT AT LEAST WE AREN'T ARKANSAS. LOL THANKS FOR MAKING ME FEEL BETTER. I GUESS OKLAHOMA IS OK!

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Re:Mr. Flemming (Centennial) - 2007/11/21 05:12 hehe yea...my mother in law once uttered the phrase "Who lives in Oklahoma anyway?!" In trying to run me down. She wasn't too happy when I started in on the list of famous and influential people she'd heard of and greatly respected that were from here. I tried really hard to not look obnoxiously smug.

I think we should all be proud of our Oklahoma heritage. There are bad things in everyone's history. Both personally and as states/countries. I don't think it's something to be ashamed of, because it's part of what makes us who we are, and part of what makes our state/country great.

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